How Arthur Shockingly Mirrors Bruce Wayne in JOKER

Joaquin Phoenix as the Joker

SPOILER WARNING: The following article contains spoilers for JOKER.

“The mirror is my best friend because when I cry it never laughs.”

-Charlie Chaplin

Mirrors become an essential element in the visual storytelling of JOKER. Working as a clown for hire, Arthur (Joaquin Phoenix) repeatedly stares at himself while applying the makeup for the job. Yet, as the opening scene shows, each time he returns to the mirror, a sad and lonely face stares back. Even before the title character fully becomes the famous Batman villain, Arthur is presented as a man searching for help from others but is ultimately left alone to face his own fate. A tired and gaunt face stares back at Arthur, who struggles with his own identity and the dark thoughts that fill his head. It’s not until he assumes a new identity that he’s comfortable in his own battered and bruised skin. Batman lore has always explored the idea that the Dark Knight wouldn’t exist in a world without the Joker, and vice versa. Yet, writer and director Todd Phillips explores their connection in fascinating ways by taking a new approach to the source material and not just saying that they need each other to survive, but that their stories share several dark parallels.

The Internal Darkness Projected Outward 

How JOKER physically manifests mental illness is the most grueling element of the film. Despite talk of its violence, it’s Joaquin Phoenix’s physical performance that causes audiences to squirm in their seats. His gaunt frame becomes a pallet for bruises as the world around him lashes out because of their misunderstanding of his illness. What’s even more excruciating is how the character’s internal madness escapes forth in uncontrollable pain as he tries to stifle his manic laughter. Laughter becomes a coping mechanism when he’s in situations that make him uncomfortable, but it also rears its head at random moments. It becomes Arthur’s worst fear because it’s the one element of his psychosis that he can’t hide from or subdue – he has to face it and learn to accept it.

In the comics, Bruce Wayne eventually turns his greatest fear into his biggest strength. Bruce dons the symbol of the bat because it represents what he was most afraid of as a child. His internal darkness and fear of being alone in a cave are brought forth in his black bat costume. This external release for both characters in order to feel alive is at the center of this version of their origin story. Arthur’s transformation into Joker mirrors the transformation in the comics of Bruce Wayne wearing the cape and cowl. He embraces the laughter by dressing as the one character that consistently causes himself pain and gets him beat up on the street. You have two men, each with multiple personalities that change based on whether they embrace and wear their fear on their sleeve. By accepting what they once saw as their one true weakness, they both head confidently into the night, unafraid of Gotham’s judgment.

We’re Born Alone, We Live Alone, We Die Alone

“For my whole life, I didn’t know I really existed. But I do, and people are starting to notice.” Many have been quick to call out JOKER for speaking to the “angry boy” culture that grew up posting anonymously online and is fueled by Mountain Dew and self-loathing. But lines like the one above aren’t meant to incite fervor in these incels looking to lash out at society who rejected them – it’s meant to mirror the duality of Bruce Wayne and Batman. Bruce Wayne is the billionaire who hides himself away in his large mansion, whose only real friend is the childhood butler who raised him. Even as an adult running Wayne Enterprises, he has always felt alone and never understood by anyone but his childhood guardian. Arthur and the Joker are presented in a similar light in this new origin story. Living and taking care of his mother occupy Arthur’s time when not performing as a clown for hire. Like Alfred, she is the only person he can confide in, even though their relationship often brings out feelings of resentment and mistrust. 

Bruce and Arthur are, essentially, both figures of isolation. Despite the fact that one might have more resources than the other, they both seem destined to die alone. They’ve accepted this, and in turn, learn to reject any notion of love. The irony, of course, is that when they go out into the world as their alter-ego that they attract the attention of the media and legions of fans. Adults and kids watch on TV and read in the papers of these figures and become fascinated by them. While both characters have followers and people that look up to them, these fans are essentially both idolizing a masked vigilante operating outside of the establishment. Yet, as is tradition with the male archetype, these legions of fans can not match the acceptance of that between a father and a son. You can have all the praise in the world, but hearing it from your father will mean more. A central plot point in JOKER is Arthur’s search for his father’s identity. It’s this denial of a father-figure in both Bruce Wayne’s and Arthur’s life that is another new parallel in this version of the story. 

A Mirror Reflects What You See, and a Black Mirror Shows the Dark Side of It

In a pivotal scene in the middle of the film, Arthur comes face to face with a young Bruce Wayne. He captures the attention of young Bruce through a circus act that involves a red nose and a magic trick. And while the two might be separated by the iron gate of Wayne Manor, they see each other. In fact, Arthur reaches out and touches Bruce’s face and makes him smile. He uses his fingers to create the same forced smile that Arthur did to himself as he looked in the mirror with tears in his eyes at the start of the film. It’s the first time that the hero and the villain of this universe see each other, and in turn, see where they came from and what they will soon become. 

This isn’t a gate separating them – it represents the mirror that connects these two lives. In this universe, Batman and Joker aren’t divided into separate sides of the same coin. They are shown to be one, connected by the same fate. This connection is further emphasized if you take into consideration that the Joker’s actions by the end of the film lead to the death of Bruce’s parents. In JOKER, Arthur may have chosen to become the title character – much like Bruce Wayne will eventually choose to become Batman – but despite their personal choices, they will always be linked by a dark parallel destiny and will forever see their nemesis when they look in the mirror.

7 Films to Watch Alongside THE NUN

The James Wan-led “Conjuring Universe” is filled with creepy houses, family turmoil, possessed children (THE CONJURING 2), and children’s toys & games gone wrong (both ANNABELLE films). Besides the fact that THE NUN takes place in 1952 which is well before the other four films in this universe, the film brings a stark change of environment by setting the scares in a monastery compared to the usual family households. Of course, with this eerie setting, a whole new style of scares and creepy imagery await audiences anticipating this scary new entry in the series.

THE NUN follows the evil entity first introduced in THE CONJURING 2. But before seeing the film when it opens this Friday, September 7th, let’s dive into a world of religious horror filled with nasty nuns, satanic spirits, and malevolent monasteries. Holy hell, let’s pray we make it out alive!

 

THE CHURCH (1989)

When you build a church over a mass grave of expected Devil worshippers dating back to The Crusades, you know that you might run into a little bit of trouble. Flash forward to present day 1989, a newly-hired librarian and a painter restoring frescos in the church discover that religious evil begets even greater evil. The underground catacombs and buried secrets beneath the church give way to some effective scares reminiscent of what we’ve seen in the trailers for THE NUN. A scene where the male lead opens a sealed crypt at the center of a stone crucifix leads to some unexpected scares and ushers in the gory but somewhat silly second half. Michele Soavi is a better visual storyteller than a writer (which he wrote with Italian master Dario Argento), so head into THE CHURCH knowing you’re getting slow creeping atmosphere at first before it segues into a bizarre, unhinged exploitation flick with allusions to ROSEMARY’S BABY in the second half.

 

THE NAME OF THE ROSE (1986)

A religious figure leaps to their death. An expert and a young apprentice are called in to investigate. Mysterious happenings pile up. If this sounds an awful lot like the plot of THE NUN, you would be correct. Yet, it’s also the plot of the book and 1986 film adaptation, THE NAME OF THE ROSE. Here you have Sean Connery playing a cross between a Franciscan monk and Sherlock Holmes, while Christian Slater plays more of a naive student in training than Dr. Watson. This engaging murder mystery was actually shot in a real monastery, and the gloomy look to the candle-lit hallways and stone archways gives the film an ominous feel. While it doesn’t feature killer nuns popping out at you, it’s worth watching to see how this inspired Gary Dauberman and James Wan’s story in THE NUN.

 

ALUCARDA (1977)

Dozens of large crucifixes and hundreds of candles are the backdrop for two girls strapped and stretched over a cross. Nuns walk around with blood-stained white garments. A late night ceremony conjures a horned demon. A woman emerges from a coffin filled with blood. Nuns burst into flames. And this is just a taste of the nightmarish imagery on display in ALUCARDA – a film praised by Guillermo del Toro. In just 74 mins, this Mexican thriller gets under your skin as it tells the story of two girls whose souls are possessed by the Devil during their stay at a monastery. Director Juan Lopez Moctezuma has a unique approach to the material that makes the sensational and exploitative events feel surprisingly artistic. The film is overflowing with blood, screams, and nudity – it’s a wild devilish ride and a chilling reminder of the horrors of teen rebellion when religion is fueled by fear.

 

THE GORGON, KISS OF THE VAMPIRE, or other Hammer Films (1964, 1963)

During interviews with the screenwriter of THE NUN earlier this year, he mentioned how the film was heavily influenced by the imagery of gothic castles and fog covered forests in the horror films of Hammer Studios. KISS OF THE VAMPIRE opens with a burial funeral in a foggy cemetery that plays as the perfect atmospheric reference to influence THE NUN. However, it’s THE GORGON that’s often praised as one of the defining moments from a studio known for producing dozens of gothic horror films from the 50s into the 70s. The film might move a little slow for some monster fans considering that the creature is shown only in brief glimpses until the end. During the wait, we’re treated to beautiful and colorful shots of the meticulous set design, an element that became a trademark in Hammer films. Hammer didn’t make a nun-inspired horror film, but the studio’s use of gothic imagery seems evident in what we’ve seen so far from THE NUN.

 

THE OTHER HELL (1981)

Bruno Mattei was never going to reach the Italian horror ranks alongside Mario Bava or Dario Argento, yet alone Lucio Fulci. Try as he may through aping their gimmicks in his C or D-level films, the Italian director never really got much recognition even though he pumped out over 50 films in his career (Argento has still directed only half as many). The plot centers on a priest investigating murders at a convent, but you’re not gonna watch a Bruno Mattei film for the story or dialogue (which was often made up on set). Demon dogs, demon girls… yes, this is cheesy exploitation through and through complete with a plot line that doesn’t make any sense. Directing under the pseudonym Stefan Oblowsky, Mattei surprisingly avoids some of the “nunsploitation” tropes like nudity and gratuitous lesbian sex scenes. It may not be scary and often includes too much padding between setpieces, but THE OTHER HELL might be the sleazy director’s most-underappreciated film.

 

THE DEVILS (1971)

There isn’t anything new that I can say about this classic and controversial horror film (yes, it is a true horror film in my eyes). Ken Russell pulls out all of the stops in this intense, surreal, and fiery critique of the abuse of power and hypocrisy within organized religion, specifically the Catholic Church. It’s no wonder that it was banned in so many countries and is still without a Blu-ray release in North America. Set in 17th century France, THE DEVILS stars Vanessa Redgrave as a hunchbacked nun named Sister Jeanne who lusts after Father Grandier (Oliver Reed). To this day, THE DEVILS has some of the most beautifully-shocking images I’ve seen in any film – one of the original deleted scenes features a massive orgy of nuns and a statue of Christ that was used in “unholy” ways. It’s the kind of film where a public burning is treated like a crazed and hysterical festival of death. And yet, the emotional performances from icons Vanessa Redgrave and Oliver Reed ground the film from going completely off the rails. There’s never going to be a time when a religious horror film gets released and the conversation doesn’t call to mind THE DEVILS. What it lacks in jump-scares, it more than makes up for in real, fervent terror.

 

THE HALLOW (2015)

It’s always interesting to revisit the films that paved the way for a director. Corin Hardy made a name for himself with several music videos and short films that led to his feature film debut. THE HALLOW has a pretty simple siege premise: A family in a remote Irish village bunker down to survive from some newly-awakened creatures in the woods. This 2015 creature feature earned Hardy the Best Horror Film at the Empire Awards. It’s also worth noting for old-school horror fans that the director pushed to use practical effects as much as possible. Leaning heavily towards suspense with a healthy dash of fantastical folklore, THE HALLOW shows a director that knows how to ratchet tension and effectively work in isolated and tight quarters. As is the case in the trailers for THE NUN, you never know what might be around the corner.

 

THE NUN opens in theaters this Friday, September 7th.

EXCLUSIVE: WAMG Talks To JOE DANTE – Mammoth Lakes Film Festival

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The 2nd Annual MAMMOTH LAKES FILM FESTIVAL is underway here in beautiful, Mammoth Lakes, California, and this year, they continue to impress with an incredible film selection. They are also introducing the Sierra Spirit Award, which they are presenting to legendary filmmaker Joe Dante tomorrow night after they screen his hit comedy INNERSPACE. Robert Picardo will also be joining Dante in a Q&A following the film. I spoke with Mr. Dante on the phone earlier this week. Check it out below!

First off, I have to say that I covered the Mammoth Lakes Film Festival for their first year last year, and I was very excited to see that you were on the list this year.

JOE DANTE: What is it like? What should I expect?

Oh, it’s beautiful. The mountains are incredible, the people are beyond friendly, and the programming is amazing. I’m curious , how were you made aware of the festival?

JOE DANTE: Honestly, they simply sent me an email and said ‘we would like you to come to our festival one night.’ I’ll be honest and say that I was not particularly with the festival. I know Mammoth Lakes, but I haven’t been there in 20 years. People have told me that it hasn’t changed much… But they were very cordial and nice and I thought ‘Gee, I’d love to see Mammoth Lakes!’

Not too far back, I went to the Egyptian Theater to see their tribute to Dick Miller. He and Rick Baker did a Q&A, and they happened to show GREMLINS and GREMLINS 2: THE NEW BATCH. What has your experience been working with Dick Miller, since he has been in just about all of your films?

JOE DANTE: I would have been there, but I was out of town. Dick is someone who… I won’t say I grew up watching… but I was certainly a lot younger when I saw him in the Roger Corman movies. He was always a favorite actor of mine, so when I came out to Hollywood and I worked with Roger Corman, I determined that I would make a film with Dick Miller in it. So, I wrote a part for him in my first picture. We hit it off so well that I thought ‘here’s a guy that I just like to see on screen. So, if I’m going to get more jobs, and make more movies, I’d like to see more of Dick!’ I basically put him in every picture that I made. There was one movie that he got cut out of, [laughs] but otherwise, he’s like my talisman! [Laughs]

It’s amazing to see the amount of credits he has under his belt!

JOE DANTE: Well, you know… You gotta keep working! You gotta feed your kids! [laughs]

Speaking of Roger Corman you don’t see the types of relationships where a producer takes on a director the way Corman did with you, and so many others. Would you ever consider mentoring someone in a more indie fashion, the way Corman did with you?

JOE DANTE: I have considered it, and have done it on occasion. I have a film that just came out called DARK by director Nick Basile, which I am an executive producer on because I wanted to see him get the picture made. That does happen, but the opportunities are limited because of the way the business is. When I was working with Corman, there was a non-stop flow of movies that were at the drive-in, so they’re a lot more opportunities to mentor young people. We were cheap to hire, and we really didn’t know what we were doing, so we would look to him. He was the professional. He would help us, and guide us so that we could get the movie finished.

There was a revolving door at Cormans, with many different people who got their first breaks working for him. Unfortunately, that spicket his turned off. There is certainly no one like him anymore, and there’s no business like that anymore. There is no flow of movies going to drive-ins anymore. Even, really, to theaters. Independent films now almost always bypass theaters and go straight to video on-demand. It’s a whole different paradigm. You just really don’t have a lot of opportunities for mentoring.

I kind of feel as though the middle budget films have it the hardest right now, because it seems like studios are gravitating to the independent film that will gain them an award, or the big summer blockbuster. That being said, there are so many options for distribution now. You have theaters, Hulu Netflix, iTunes… Television has even become a major competitor. Has the evolution of the market changed how you approach the market, and do you have a preference?

JOE DANTE: Feature people used to look down on television because it was a lesser medium, they thought. It was a small screen, and they had certain restrictions on how they shot because the screen was so small. That’s all gone now, obviously. Some people have home theater systems that are better than their local theater. There’s really no difference in the aesthetic anymore. What’s happened in the last decade is the rise of the mini-series, and they have allowed people to do the whole book… and not have to cut it down to just 90 minutes. They can now develop sub-plots for all these characters. That’s why a lot of directors are gravitating towards television now as a storytelling medium… and now the theatrical has become a spectacle business. People go because they want to see stories on big screens… superheroes, and movies with 12 climaxes… with special-effects, and all that that’s one kind of movie. It used to be one of many kinds of movies, but now it’s the kind of movie that only gets made for theaters. Of course you have your dramas, and your romantic movies… your thrillers… but they just don’t do that well theatrically. There’s no market anymore. it’s syndication. They used to show a lot more on local stations, but now it’s all infomercials. Your revenue streams cut off. The idea of making an independent film and having it be seen. There might be more places for independent films to be seen, but not paying. If you want to put it out on VOD, like my last movie… if I type in the title the first five sites to come up are pirate site so people can watch your movies for free. The chances of people making money by putting their films on video on demand is greatly deduced.

One of the things that I really respect is the amount of practical effects that you’ve used over the years. It’s sad to see practical effects being used less and less with the rise of CGI quality.

JOE DANTE: I was brought up on practical effects, because that’s what was state-of-the-art when I was working. And also because you’re doing it on the set and you have something for the actors to relate to instead of telling them to stare into the corner and pretend that there’s a monster there. CGI has taken over to a degree that most people don’t even understand. When they go to see a movie like GRAVITY they don’t realize that besides the actors faces there was nothing to photograph. There are a few practical scenes, but for the most part it’s all done on computer, and very cleverly done. It’s very convincing. All the beautiful, mundane things like the sky, or the mountains in a shot are manipulated somehow. It’s far beyond any photographic manipulation that we could ever do. We had a hard time trying to move the TV Ariel out of the shot in a period piece because there was nothing we could really do to erase it without scratching the movie and then you have to figure out a way to try and de-scratch it. We had very limited tools and now you can push a button and do just about anything. Literally anything you could think of to do you can do. It really is great, but I do think that there is something to be said about the old way of doing it… of the practical effects that are actually photographed and in the scene with the people. They’re not standing on a green screen. They’re standing on a set. They know where the chairs are. They know where the other actors are. I’m old-fashioned I guess, but I prefer that. There’s no way were going to be able to turn our back on the computer generated stuff. It’s the future, and I think that once the virtual reality stuff comes in the play, which I think is right around the corner, it’s almost all gonna be virtual reality.

Speaking of practical effects I was reading somewhere that you have kept props from a lot of your movies. What are some of your more prized pieces?

JOE DANTE: I don’t know about prized, because they’re from my own movies. I have a Rosebud sled, original… that I take pride in, because it’s a great movie. Mostly I have all of the inventions from GREMLINS, the spaceships from EXPLORERS, miniatures from INNERSPACE…things like that that are dotted around my house in various places. It’s not exactly a museum.

That’s wonderful! I actually have a life-sized Gremlin in my house…

JOE DANTE: Really? Where did you get that?

There’s a company called Neca that makes…

JOE DANTE: Oh, Neca! They do great stuff!

Yeah, he’s pretty neat. They’re made from the original stunt puppets so I have a Flasher Gremlin just hanging around, amongst other things… He definitely gets a look whenever I have people over!

JOE DANTE: [Laughs]

Check out A NIGHT WITH JOE DANTE : Centerpiece Sierra Spirit Award Presentation and screening of INNERSPACE Saturday Night, May 28th, at the U.S. Forrest Service Theater in Mammoth Lakes, California. You can buy your tickets before they sell out HERE. 

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WAMG Looks At Zack Snyder’s BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE And Batman In Popular Culture

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Warner Bros. Pictures’ screen pairing of the world’s most iconic super heroes has at last answered the question “Who Will Win?” by winning over movie audiences and setting box office records around the world this weekend with an estimated worldwide box office total of $424.1 million.

Batman and Superman. Gotham and Metropolis. Lex Luthor, Doomsday and—for the first time ever on the big screen—Wonder Woman. With its stellar lineup of heroes and villains and bigger and better battles with even more at stake than the destruction of the Earth, Zack Snyder’s BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE is an epic Super Hero journey like no other.

Pit the two greatest heroes in the world against each other and the unthinkable becomes inevitable in the form of a truly seismic clash: Batman, the underground vigilante, a knight in the darkness, and Superman, the unbeatable alien in the sky—who can possibly win such a war?

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From director Zack Snyder comes BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE, starring Oscar winner Ben Affleck (“Argo”) as Batman/Bruce Wayne and Henry Cavill as Superman/Clark Kent in the characters’ first big-screen pairing.

Fearing the actions of a god-like Super Hero left unchecked, Gotham City’s own formidable, forceful vigilante takes on Metropolis’s most revered, modern-day savior, while the world wrestles with what sort of hero it really needs. And with Batman and Superman at war with each other, a new threat quickly arises, putting mankind in greater danger than it has ever known before.

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To capture this epic world, director Snyder turned to director of photography Larry Fong, with whom he’s worked several times. “It was exciting developing the look for the film,” Fong says. “Zack definitely has his own style but he’s not afraid to try new things as well.”

While the camera work on MAN OF STEEL was mainly handheld, Fong says for this film Snyder wanted to change it up. Therefore Fong took a more classic approach, with mostly dolly, Technocrane and Steadicam moves. “Designing the shots with these tools was good discipline. We wanted a naturalistic look, but with a heightened reality. That was the feel we were going for.”

The variety of shot designs was only dwarfed by the variety of formats. “When we first starting talking about format, Zack was immediately drawn to 35mm anamorphic with single-camera coverage. But by the end, we had shot in 16mm, 35mm anamorphic, 35mm spherical, 65mm, GoPro, digital and IMAX,” Fong laughs.

IMAX presented one of the biggest challenges, according to the cinematographer. “IMAX cameras are big and heavy, with very shallow depth of field. Zack likes to move the camera a lot,” he adds “so we really pushed the limits. We attempted some very elaborate camera moves and even handheld shots with it, and our camera operator, John Clothier, and first assistant camera, Bill Coe, were incredible. The results are amazing. You can really feel the immense scope of the format.”

The role of Batman required Ben Affleck to appear intimidating enough to go up against Superman. “It was important to me that Batman be bigger because Superman is infinitely stronger than the best that humanity has to offer,” explains director Zack Snyder.

“Theoretically, the best that man can do is still nothing in the face of Superman, but I wanted him to look like he stands a chance. Ben is 6’4”; with his boots on he’s 6’6”. And he’s handsome, smart, charismatic and mature. For the road-weary Batman that we wanted, Ben was perfect.”

Batman has been a staple of pop culture throughout the decades.

Detective Comics (1937-2011) #27 was the very first appearance of the Bat-Man in the six-page story “”The Case of the Criminal Syndicate!”” This issue also featured the first appearances of Commissioner Gordon and the revelation of Bat-Man’s secret identity as Bruce Wayne. The film’s screenplay by Chris Terrio, an Oscar winner for ARGO, and David S. Goyer (THE DARK KNIGHT) is inspired by several graphic novels and story arcs from the classic DC comics. First and foremost is Frank Miller’s seminal 1986 work “The Dark Knight Returns” which concludes with an epic battle between a greying Batman (probably a good ten years older than in the film) and the seemingly immortal Superman, who is now an agent of the government. The “bat armor” worn by Ben Affleck echoes the enhanced uniform designed by Miller. Much earlier in the film, Wayne glances at a combat suit encased in glass on display in the Batcave. On closer inspection we can see a raised “R” over the left breast. This may be a reference to the celebrated story arc that ran in Batman comics #426-429 in the late eighties written by Jim Starlin and penciled by Jim Aparo. Readers were offered a chance to vote on the fate of second Robin Jason Todd via 900 phone number. Ultimately Todd perishes when he throws himself on a bomb, this after barely surviving a brutal beating from a crowbar-wielding Joker. Another famous story arc referenced is “The Death of Superman” from the DC Superman titles in 1992, which had Kal-el giving his life to protect Metropolis from the raging, near-unstoppable monster Doomsday.

Though Superman made it to movie screens first in 1941 in a series of highly lauded animated shorts, Batman beat him to the punch in the live action arena with 1943’s Columbia’s fifteen chapter serial BATMAN. Lewis Wilson was Batman and Douglas Croft played Robin, now fully authorized US undercover agents. They were assigned to stop nefarious Axis agent, the Japanese mastermind Dr. Daka, played by the Irish character actor J. Carrol Naish. A year after Superman’s live action serial debut, Columbia produced a fifteen chapter follow-up, BATMAN AND ROBIN with Robert Lowery and Johnny Duncan in the title roles. The dynamic duo faced off against a mysterious, fully-masked scientific genius known as the Wizard (his identity a secret until the final installment). Two supporting characters from the comics were included for the first time. Jane Adams was intrepid news photog Vicki Vale and former matinee idol Lyle Talbot was Police Commissioner Gordon. The caped crusader didn’t return to movie screens until the 1966 Twentieth Century Fox feature film BATMAN, which starred the TV cast and was rushed into production in order to capitalize on the gigantic popularity of the twice-weekly ABC network show.

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In 1989, Warner Bros. released the live-action feature film BATMAN; directed by Tim Burton and starring Michael Keaton as the title character.

The film was a huge success; not only was it the top-grossing film of the year, but at the time was the fifth highest-grossing film in history. The film also won the Academy Award for Best Art Direction. The film’s success spawned three sequels: Batman Returns (1992), Batman Forever (1995) and Batman & Robin (1997); the latter two of which were directed by Joel Schumacher instead of Burton, and replaced Keaton as Batman with Val Kilmer and George Clooney, respectively. The second Schumacher film, while a box office success, failed to outgross any of its predecessors and was critically panned; causing Warner Bros. to cancel the planned fourth sequel, BATMAN TRIUMPHANT, and place the film series on hiatus. (Wikipedia)

In September 2015, The Hollywood Reporter ran a story that DC Entertainment had announced that Bill Finger, who worked with Bob Kane on early Batman comic strips as well as co-creating Green Lantern and other characters for the company, would be receiving official credit for his work in film and television projects based on his creations.

Finger, who died in 1974, made a number of critical contributions to the Batman mythos, including coming up with the names of the hero’s alter ego Bruce Wayne, as well as the city in which the hero fights crime. He was also co-creator for a number of iconic Batman characters including Robin, Catwoman and the Joker.

Although Kane received sole official credit for the character as part of the original deal signed in 1939, the artist talked in later life about Finger being an important influence on the development of the series. In his 1989 autobiography Batman and Me, Kane described Finger as “a contributing force” on the series, noting “I must admit that Bill never received the fame and recognition he deserved.”

See BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE in theaters now.

Contributed by Jim Batts and Michelle McCue

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Gerard Butler’s Most Badass Roles

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After an unconventional start into acting (he was fired as a lawyer in Edinburgh due to his partying antics and moved to London), Gerard Butler has appeared in rom-coms, animations and even musicals, but the Scottish actor has emerged as an unashamed Hollywood bad-ass in some of the most iconic action films of recent times.

From an early role starring alongside James Bond in TOMORROW NEVER DIES (1997) to returning as one-man-army Mike Banning in LONDON HAS FALLEN (in cinemas March 3), there is no end to the tough-guy roles that Butler can impress in.

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The sequel to the worldwide smash hit OLYMPUS HAS FALLEN sees Butler in his latest action-packed role, as the relentless bodyguard to the US president, Mike Banning. Upon the discovery of a plot to assassinate the world leaders attending the Prime Minister’s funeral, he makes it his mission to stand firm against the relentless violence that awaits him. To celebrate the film’s release we take a look at Butler’s most violent performances.

300 (2006)

Based on the 1998 comic series, 300 places Butler straight into to the Battle of Thermopylae in the center of a truly epic war. Standing at the heart of the action, Butler is King Leonidas, head of 300 Spartans who he leads to fight against Persian “god-King” Xerxes (Rodrigo Santoro). Outnumbered against more than 300,000 soldiers, fear is not an option as the Spartans put their extreme fighting skills to the test, refusing to part ways with their lethal weapons. Filled with anger, blood and brutality, 300 sees Butler in the goriest of violence and makes it one of his most iconic roles.

RocknRolla (2008)

A British crime comedy written and directed by expert crime filmmaker Guy Ritchie, RocknRolla sees Butler as an ambitious but small-time crook. Taking control as the leader against British mob boss Tom Wilkinson, he’s in control of the “Wild Bunch”, made up of an awesome threesome including Idris Elba and Tom Hardy. Money is the root of all evil in this battle of ego, filling scenes with robberies, beatings and all the cockney violence you would expect. Unlike the snarling beast we see in 300, Butler feels more at home in this gritty role, gracing our screens with action just as aggressive, but much more controlled.

Law Abiding Citizen (2009)

Law Abiding Citizen places revenge at the cause of the action, as Butler takes on the duty of fighting against a corrupt criminal justice system. Being forced to witness the death of his wife and daughter, prosecutor Jamie Foxx is unable to secure Butler the justice he so desperately needs. Taking the fight into his own hands it’s not just the killer that he’s after, but the district attorney too. With a grim determination Butler is relentless in his efforts, showcasing his expected brutal fist and a mind just as strong to go with it.

Machine Gun Preacher (2011)

As the ultimate tough-guy, Machine Gun Preacher sees Butler as Sam Childers, a former drug dealing biker. A biographical action drama based on children’s book Another Man’s War; Machine Gun Preacher forces Butler to put his threatening demeanor to use for the good of the children of South Sudan. A far cry from his usual violence, motivated by intentions of defeating crime and seeking revenge, protection is the heart of this obligation. From an alcoholic drunk to a converted Christian, this action packed role sees him as a crusader for hundreds of Sudanese children, forced to become soldiers by the Lord’s Resistance Army.

London Has Fallen (2016)

The sequel to the intense hit Olympus Has Fallen, London Has Fallen sees an explosive series of events after London becomes the setting for the Prime Minister’s funeral. With most world leaders in attendance, the event intends to stand as the most protected on earth. Instead the intense security is infiltrated, and it emerges that the event is a deadly plot to kill each of the leaders, devastating every known London landmark in the process. With a sworn duty to protect the US president, the playing field is expanded from the claustrophobic White House to the streets of London and the stakes are higher as Mike Banning (Butler) fights to bring the people responsible to a violent end.

LONDON HAS FALLEN is directed by Babak Najafi and written by Creighton Rothenberger & Katrin Benedikt and Christian Gudegast and Chad St. John.

Starring Gerard Butler, Aaron Eckhart, Morgan Freeman, Alon Moni Aboutboul, Angela Bassett, Robert Forster, Jackie Earle Haley, Melissa Leo, Radha Mitchell, Sean O’Bryan, Charlotte Riley and Waleed Zuaiter, LONDON HAS FALLEN COMES TO CINEMAS MARCH 3.

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EXCLUSIVE : WAMG Talks To CHRISTOPHER LANDON – SCOUTS GUIDE TO THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE

 

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In SCOUTS GUIDE TO THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE, three scouts and lifelong friends join forces with one badass cocktail waitress to become the world’s most unlikely team of heroes. Recently, I sat down with director Christopher Landon to talk about the film. I have to add that he is an incredibly wonderful interview! I had a blast talking with him, as you will see below!

When their peaceful town is ravaged by a zombie invasion, three scouts will fight for the badge of a lifetime and put their scouting skills to the test to save mankind from the undead.

Left to right: Logan Miller plays Carter, Tye Sheridan plays Ben and Joey Morgan plays Augie in SCOUTS GUIDE TO THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE from Paramount Pictures.

The first question I have to ask is how this movie come about?

CHRISTOPHER LANDON : How did this wack-a-doodle thing get made? [Laughs]

Yeah! It’s a lot of fun! 

CHRISTOPHER LANDON : So, I just finished PARANORMAL ACTIVITY : THE MARKED ONES, which had a lot of comedy in the beginning of it. So, Paramount called me up and said ‘We have this script called SCOUTS vs. ZOMBIES, which was the original title, and I instantly thought ‘either this is going to be awesome, or really stupid,’ and it was both… and I was really happy about that. [Laughs] I read it, and I was like ‘this is a surprisingly sweet movie.’ It was written, at the time, as PG-PG13, and I was like ‘that’s a hat trick.’ I don’t know how you can make a zombie movie for kids. So, I went back to them and I said ‘You know what? I think this is cool. I think this could be really funny. I think it should be Rated R, and I think it should be gory, and I think it should be balls out crazy! I was surprised that they were like ‘OK! Go for it!’ When they said ‘Go for it!’ they really meant it. so in my dream bag of what I would want to see in this kind of movie… I got to pull all of that stuff out… and they were really supportive of that. It just, kind of, evolved. I think I wrote a couple of – I think I wrote two drafts – and then the next thing I knew we were off and making it. It was surprising too. I think that size of the movie is hard to get made right now. You’re either dealing with very small, Jason Blum style 5 million dollar movies, or your GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY. There’s very little in between now, and so the fact that the studio was willing to make this movie was impressive. The fact that they were willing to make a movie with no real major stars was impressive, but also that they really supported me in my vision to make a movie that felt like THE GOONIES, and felt like GREMLINS… that was a throwback. I wanted to make an 80’s style movie. It was pretty cool.

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It’s great that you mention GREMLINS and THE GOONIES because it does have that 80’s kind of feel. You have the friendship, but you also have the raunchy elements… you have the boobs! 

CHRISTOPHER LANDON : The boobs are there! [Laughs] By the way, it’s funny because my friends all make fun of me because I’m gay, and they’re like ‘Why does the gay guy always have boobs in his movies?’ [Laughs] I’m like ‘I don’t know! They just keep popping up!’ It’s horror!

It’s horror! There should be boobs! [Laughs] It’s cool that you threw that stuff in, because a lot of horror today sort of misses the mark on the themes and patterns of 80’s films. What other influences did you have going into this? 

CHRISTOPHER LANDON : My big influences, of course, was THE GOONIES, MONSTER SQUAD was there, but then there were echoes of SUPERBAD. That was something that I really loves, and felt like kind of had a place in this movie. Even, in a weird way, and this is the weirdest reference, but STAND BY ME. There was a tinge of that, and you’ll see that in the campfire scene. I really wanted to sell the idea of this friendship, and of these three guys, and the experience that they’re going through. I think it’s a very relatable thing… to be in high school, and to find yourself at a crossroads in your friendships, where you’re outgrowing a friendship, or you’re at least in the process of reevaluating a friendship because you want to trade up to things that don’t really matter, which is something that I talked about in the movie. So, I really wanted to capture it all in a very relatable story, but then still deliver the ridiculous headpieces, and the scares, and the fun, and all that kind of stuff.

When it comes to the comedy in this film, and how dirty it goes how did you find the balance between it and the horror, and was there anything that went too far that you couldn’t put into the movie? 

CHRISTOPHER LANDON : Ok, oh man. I’m gonna get in trouble. Let’s see what we can print here. So, um… I … First of all, I always tend to follow the ‘South Park’ rule of comedy, which is that I don’t think that anything is sacred. I think that life is meant to be laughed at as much as possible. I have a gallows humor that I grew up with, so I don’t find anything particularly taboo. I never felt like I was personally crossing a line. I know that in terms of personal taste, for some, I have. There are moments in the movie… there’s one moment in the movie that tends to offend some people. I’m not going to say what it is, but that’s the one that kind of makes me… I find it kind of interesting because people are offended at this one particular scene, but then they’re not offended by other stuff, and I’m always like ‘That’s so weird to draw a line in the weirdest places.’ But, I wrote one scene that ended up not making it. I had to come up with a pretty quick replacement for it because the studio got cold feet. I will tell you what it is if you want to hear it. I’ll get in trouble for what it is, but I don’t care. [Laughs]

Of course I wanna hear it! [Laughs]

CHRISTOPHER LANDON : So, there’s a scene in the movie where out scouts encounter a homeless zombie, and they have a sing-a-long with the zombie. You saw the movie?

Yes. I saw it last night.

CHRISTOPHER LANDON : Ok. So, they do a sing-a long. The original version of that scene was, and this is why I was gonna go to hell… They’re walking down the street and they see a school bus off to the side of the road, and it turns out that it’s a short school bus… and an intellectually and developmentally disabled child comes off the bus, and they can’t figure out if he is a zombie, or it’s part of his disability. So, they are debating back and forth on if they should shoot him or not, and he keeps getting closer, and closer. It was hysterical! [Laughs] It was hysterical, but horribly mean and offensive. So, the studio…

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CHRISTOPHER LANDON : So, they were like ‘We’ve been really cool about everything, This one is not ok with us!’, which was tough, because I knew it was going to be the funniest scene in the movie. It’s so wrong that it’s right. I know most of my audience would have been you… and they would have died laughing, but I would have gotten hate mail! It wasn’t even one of those ‘I can fight for it’ moments, it was the head of the studio calling me, saying ‘We won’t let you make the movie if you keep this scene.’

Oh, yeah! That was the line in the sand! [Laughs] 

CHRISTOPHER LANDON : But it was really funny! [Laughs] It was a really good scene!

So, I’m guessing this won’t be on the bonus features either?

CHRISTOPHER LANDON : No. This will not be on the bonus features! I literally was trying to find a way to shoot both somehow without them knowing… like, I was gonna swap the cards out, and find the actor, and do the whole thing, but there was no time in the schedule, and it was literally one of those that if I got caught, I could get fired deals. So I was like ‘Fine. I won’t do it…’ It’s a really tough scene to watch for me, because while I’m so proud of that moment, and I think it plays really well, and it’s definitely quirky and funny, It always reminds me of the one that got away!

Left to right: Cloris Leachman plays Ms. Fielder and Logan Miller plays in SCOUTS GUIDE TO THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE from Paramount Pictures.

Wow! Where do we go from here in the interview? [Laughs] Cloris Leachman! Super excited about that! How did you convince her to do this? [Laughs] 

CHRISTOPHER LANDON : She’s amazing! YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN was one of my all time favorite movies, so I’ve been a fan of hers ever since then. It was really just a call. It was a ‘Will you do this?’ and she said yes! I heard ‘Oh, she’s pretty out there! She’s really crazy, and fun to work with!’ but there is nothing that prepares you for this woman. She shows up. She’s a force of nature. Her first day on set, I was waiting by her trailer, because I wanted to be there when she arrived – she’s a legend, so you have to show your respect. So, I’m standing there with Logan, and she pulls up, and she’s already in character, and she’s clawing at the window like a zombie [laughs] looking at me. She gets out of the car, and the first thing she says to Logan is ‘I’m gonna eat your ass!’ [Laughs] I was like ‘You’re gonna be so much fun to work with!’ and she was! She was crazy, and she would tell the funniest stories! Every night, when we would wrap her, I would walk her to her car. We would do an arm in arm, and I would take her though set… and as I walked her through set she would literally go to every single crew member [whispers] ‘Goodnight’ [as she was flipping them off]… [Laughs] She’d flip everyone off! We had one night where we had a crowd of looky-lou people watching in the neighborhood… kids, and everyone… and when she came out, she flew two birds at them [laughs] and I was like ‘You’re a nutcase! I love you!’

That sounds amazing! [Laughs] 

CHRISTOPHER LANDON : It was pretty fun. We were always laughing, and it was tough sometimes because there were times when we really needed to get the shit moving faster. It was hard because we had really funny people on set that made you laugh all the time.

SCOUTS GUIDE TO THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE hits theaters tomorrow

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WAMG Talks COOTIES With Alison Pill and Elijah Wood (Video)

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From the twisted minds of Leigh Whannell (co-creator of Saw and Insidious) and Ian Brennan (co-creator of “Glee”), COOTIES is a horror comedy with unexpected laughs and unapologetic thrills. When a cafeteria food virus turns elementary school children into killer zombies, a group of misfit teachers must band together to escape the playground carnage.

Recently, I sat down with stars Elijah Wood (The Hobbit, Lord of the Rings), and Alison Pill (“The Newsroom”) to talk with them about gore, comedy, and chicken nugget processing. Check it out below!

COOTIES stars Elijah Wood (The Hobbit, Lord of the Rings), Rainn Wilson (“The Office”), and Alison Pill (“The Newsroom”) as teachers who fight to survive the mayhem while hilariously bickering in an uncomfortable love triangle on the worst Monday of their lives. COOTIES will be one of the debut releases of the newly-launched Lionsgate Premiere label, which will release the film on September 18th in select theaters and on demand.

SpectreVision and Glacier Films present COOTIES, starring Elijah Wood, Rainn Wilson, Alison Pill, Jack McBrayer, Leigh Whannell, Nasim Pedrad, Ian Brennan and Jorgé Garcia. The film is directed by Jonathan Milott and Cary Murnion from a screenplay by Leigh Whannell and Ian Brennan. Daniel Noah, Josh C. Waller and Elijah Wood produce along with Tove Christensen, Georgy Malkov and Steven Schneider. Ian Brennan, Leigh Whannell, Gevond Andreasyan, Sarik Andreasyan, Hayden Christensen, Seth William Meier and Vladmir Poliakov serve as Executive Producers.

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 COOTIES is in select theaters and on VOD now

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WAMG At The INSIDE OUT Premiere

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Disney Pixar’s INSIDE OUT is gearing up to hit theaters, and in celebration, stars Amy Poehler, Phyllis Smith, Bill Hader, Lewis Black, Mindy Kaling, Kyle MacLachlan, and Bobby Moynihan hit the purple carpet for the films premiere. The carpet was also joined by Minnie Driver, David Alan Grier, Tony Hawk and more! Check out my pictures from the red carpet below!

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Do you ever look at someone and wonder what is going on inside their head? Disney•Pixar’s original new film “Inside Out” ventures inside the mind to find out.

Based in Headquarters, the control center inside 11-year-old Riley’s mind, five Emotions are hard at work, led by lighthearted optimist Joy (Amy Poehler), whose mission is to make sure Riley stays happy. Fear (voice of Bill Hader) heads up safety, Anger (voice of Lewis Black) ensures all is fair and Disgust (voice of Mindy Kaling) prevents Riley from getting poisoned—both physically and socially. Sadness (voice of Phyllis Smith) isn’t exactly sure what her role is, and frankly, neither is anyone else.  When Riley’s family relocates to a scary new city, the Emotions are on the job, eager to help guide her through the difficult transition. But when Joy and Sadness are inadvertently swept into the far reaches of Riley’s mind—taking some of her core memories with them—Fear, Anger and Disgust are left reluctantly in charge. Joy and Sadness must venture through unfamiliar places—Long Term Memory, Imagination Land, Abstract Thought and Dream Productions—in a desperate effort to get back to Headquarters, and Riley.

INSIDE OUT hits theaters June 19th

WAMG Talks To The BACKSTREET BOYS: SHOW ‘EM WHAT YOU’RE MADE OF

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Backstreet’s back… with a brand new documentary about their journey as a band. BACKSTREET BOYS: SHOW ‘EM WHAT YOU’RE MADE OF is a surprising and rewarding journey filmed over 2 years that delves into the extremes of fame, fortune, betrayal and renewal. The documentary follows Nick Carter, Brian Littrell, Kevin Richardson, Howie Dorough and AJ McLean as they share their lives with us and relive their journey together, revealing new and old tensions that need confronting and resolving.  Recently, WAMG sat down with the band, along with director Stephen Kijak, to talk about the film. Check it out below.

The Backstreet Boys are a multiple award winning and Grammy-nominated group. They have sold 130 million records worldwide, and are recognized as the best-selling boyband in history. Not only have their first 9 albums all debuted in the top 10 on the Billboard Top 100 but they have gone gold and platinum in 46 countries.

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FACEBOOK : https://www.facebook.com/backstreetboys

BACKSTREET BOYS : SHOW ‘EM WHAT YOU’RE MADE OF is in theaters and on VOD now

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Ethan Hawke Talks PREDESTINATION With WAMG

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Ethan Hawke’s latest film PREDESTINATION has quite a bit of buzz surrounding it, including several wins at the Toronto After Dark Film Festival. In celebration of the film opening in theaters and On Demand this Friday, WAMG sat down with Hawke in a small roundtable discussion to talk about his latest film, BOYHOOD, and time-travel. Check it out below.

PREDESTINATION chronicles the life of a Temporal Agent (Ethan Hawke) sent on an intricate series of time-travel journeys designed to prevent future killers from committing their crimes. Now, on his final assignment, the Agent must stop the one criminal that has eluded him throughout time and prevent a devastating attack in which thousands of lives will be lost.

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What were your first thoughts when you read this script?

Ethan Hawke : I need to read it again. I’ve never had that feeling. First of all I wasn’t even sure what part they were offering me. ‘Am I the bartender or am I the other guy? Or wait is he a guy?’ That aspect of it was really fun. Even though I didn’t get it I knew I wanted to be involved with it because it was just so smart. It reminded me a little bit about that movie BRAZIL. You know when BRAZIL ends and you say, ‘What the hell just happened?’ But I enjoyed it. Most movies are so obvious anyway. Particularly for a person that has been making movies for a long time. I spend my life reading scripts so I get ahead of them all the time. “Oh, she dropped the pen. Oh, I get it. Forty pages now and they’ll find the pen and that’s how they’ll know.’ It gets so tedious. This I had no idea what was happening. And yet the language was so good and the ideas were so interesting. I love DAYBREAKERS too.

Were you a fan of the time travel movies in general? Do you have a favorite?

Ethan Hawke : My favorite is probably all those old ‘Twilight Zone’ episodes. They are so good and so well shot. A lot of them have to do with time travel. Somebody finds themselves out of time or in a new time. I always found them so interesting and in a way when I read this I thought, ‘You know what? This could be is a feature length of the greatest ‘The Twilight Zone’ episode ever,’ where you are like ‘Wait, what?’ Because ‘The Twilight Zone’ always had that great thing where there is some twist at the end where you are like, ‘oh they are on a different planet.’ I think those episodes from Twilight are some of the best things ever.

If you could time travel where would you go?

Ethan Hawke : I think the first thing that I would do is want to go visit my kids when they are older.

The future?

Ethan Hawke : I would want to go to the future. I want to see how they did. That would be the thing that most interests me. The past isn’t that interesting to me.

I feel like this film is so completely different to anything you have done in the past. What attracted you to it?

Ethan Hawke : Peter Michael. In a way this could be a good double feature with GATTACA. They are different but they fall into the kind of science fiction which is my favorite where they make you think. People often hear science fiction they picture STAR WARS or ray guns. I like the science fiction that gives you an excuse to talk about really sophisticated ideas. This movie is making a case for the inner connectedness of man or the masculine feminine side of every self, that we all are two halves of one masculine feminine identify and that it’s actually at war with itself through space and time. Hunting itself and until it stops hunting itself there is going to be violence. You can make a strong case that, that’s what that movie is about.

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What is the difference in your performance for something like this where the theme is allegory and where those philosophical ideas are sub-text, verses something like the before trilogy where it is all text and what is begin said between the characters?

Ethan Hawke : That’s a good question. The work I have done with Linklater is naturalism too at an extreme degree. Those movies almost forfeit plot. There almost is no plot. The event of the movie is time. What time does to a family and what time does to romantic love. Time is the event. Where as a movie like PREDESTINATION there is a plot. This happens and then that happens so it becomes more straight forward story telling. Therefore, they are each hard in their own way. My work with Rick really asks me to kind of blur the line between character and performer and create a full completion of imagination so you think those people exist. In this its really more about you are the actor but your inner workings are not as important as the plot. You are part of a story that is being told so you have to see yourself as a servant to the story. It’s not interesting how my character feels about any given event if it doesn’t help tell the story. If I decide that my character is actually scared of driving, it doesn’t really help. Where as if I wanted to something like that in boyhood it’s interesting. All that stuff just helps.

You say you want to go to the future to see your kids grow up. How does fatherhood change you?

Ethan Hawke : Very hard to say anything worth reading about. Parenthood is part of life. It’s a little bit like friendship and love. All those big subjects. Fatherhood is definitely a part of who I am now. I have four kids so it’s just the context in which I see everything. The fun of working on boy hood was that there was a place to put all that thinking. I help Lorelei’s baby so I get to do scenes with her. It’s an amazing miracle in a way. What’s wonderful about it is that it makes you constantly meditate on how wonderful it is to be alive. We had this joke on set that the ad line for the movie should be ‘PREDESTINATION, go fuck yourself!’  In a lot of the buddhist theories they say if we are all traveling through time and we have all been reincarnated as our mother and each others father then we actually were our own mother at some point. We are all one living organism. When you look at parenthood from that context it’s kind of an illusion that we are ethos persons parent. We are actually part of a culture. We are part of a time period we live in. We don’t know whats happening with the planet. There is a larger thing at work. That’s what I love about science fiction. It let’s you talk about those ideas without talking about religion. Where people have those knee jerk things where ‘I’m Christian so I don’t think about that or I’m Muslim so I don’t think about that.’ It lets you just think about the idea of it.

What was your collaboration with Sarah Snook like?

Ethan Hawke : It’s hard to talk about without ruining it. When I did GATTACA one of the great pleasures with that movie was being a part of Jude Law’s performance. It was amazing. I knew this guy was the real deal and that he is going to be around forever. I felt that way about Sarah. So confident and so cool. In fact this whole movie hinges on her being brilliant. It has to be an unknown actress. It would be one thing if it was Kate Winslet, but if it was Kate Winslet the twist of the movie would be ruined and you would just watch her act as appose to falling into the story which is what Sarah gave us. I knew we had to be symbiotic but what was hard about it was to both be true to it but not give it away. That was the weird little dance. If we were too cute with it then everybody would know what was up. That’s what I mean by a lot of what we are doing is story telling. At first glance that first scene is a bartender talking to a young man walking into a bar. Well watch the movie a second time and its a different scene. You say no wait, he’s meeting himself. There is something almost moving about it. But if I play that too much the first time you watch it you will get it. I can’t let you get it the first time but I have to be true to it so that the second you get it and it becomes more interesting. This is one of the few movies that it really is better the second time you see it.

Did you have to talk with Sarah on how to talk manly and mimic you?

Ethan Hawke : Yes and no. We worked on the parts and go to play those scenes with each other. I had to do the scenes with myself at the end of the movie. I worked on those scenes with Sarah where she got to do it and I got to do the scene that she had to do with herself. She’s funny and she’s smart and she watched movies of me when I was that age. It was also not about us imitating each other but finding a larger truth to who that fictional person is.

How many times have you seen this movie?

Ethan Hawke : Well I feel like I have seen it a thousand times because I worked on it but I have only seen it twice.

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Do you enjoy watching yourself on film… and going back to the older films?

Ethan Hawke : I don’t enjoy it or not enjoy it. It’s not something I do. Hopefully people will like this movie and twelve years from now I’ll see fifteen minutes of it on a television one night or someone will be doing a retrospective about the Spierigs and I’ll be there and i’ll see a part of it. Mostly I enjoy going to film festivals and seeing them with an audience for the first time. To be at the BOYHOOD screening when nobody knew that the movie really took place over twelve years. Now when people go see it they heard that. When it showed it was just an untitled Richard Linklater film and you felt the audience say ‘Wow, this kid is growing up before our eyes.’ You felt the penny drop and that can never happen again. I like seeing the DP’s (Director of Photography) work because you get so involved with it on the day. It’s funny to see which take they picked. Simple little stuff like that. ‘Oh, he went that way. I liked it better the other way.’ That aspect of watching it is fun. It’s moving for me to see scenes with River Pheonix now or Philip Seymour Hoffman. Those things are all changes over time. All of a sudden that scene in BEFORE THE DEVIL KNOWS YOU’RE DEAD means something else to me. I didn’t know that would be the last time I would work with Phil. I thought it would be the first time.

In BOYHOOD you get to see yourself 10 to 12 years ago and get to see yourself change. Over those years how do you feel you have changed? Over the next 10 to 12 years what do you want to become?

Ethan Hawke : I wish I could know what I could learn ten years from now already so I didn’t have to learn it. I’m always amazed at how much stays the same. The weird thing to me about BEFORE MIDNIGHT for example and when you watch it in relationship to BEFORE SUNRISE, which was shot eighteen years earlier, how much of the character just stays the same. I mean the face is falling apart and all that stuff but the essence of the person is the same. We learn things and I feel we get better at showing our true self or we get worse at it. We either get cleaner or more twisted and I think the people that age the best are the people who kind of untwist themselves the best and the people who suffer the most get more and more twisted. Youth always covers up a lot of problems because its attractive and fun and then as you get older things get revealed.

You were talking about how the characters motions need to be in service with the plot. What do you do to make sure that human element is still present? 

Ethan Hawke : That’s being an actor. Sometimes I’ll be on a set and some actors complain saying ‘This line isn’t any good.’ You have to make it good. That’s why you are being paid. Our job is to infuse humanity in many frames as possible. That’s why it is so hard to act well in a TV show because the plot is ruling everything. ‘She found the clue. Who did it? He did it. She did it.’ There is no time to be human. If you have ever seen Vincent D’onofrio in ‘Law & Order : Criminal Intent,’ he could do it. There is all this plot yet there is human being in the middle of it. The best actors can do that. I always joke when people ask ‘Is it challenging?’ It’s never challenging to work with a good director on a great script. People say Daniel Day Lewis is great in LINCOLN. Yeah he was. He better be. It’s hard to be good in an episode of ‘Matlock.’ If you can’t be good with Tony Christian and Spielberg and those guys then you suck.

BOYHOOD got named film of the year by New York Film Critics Circle Awards. There is a lot of Oscar buzz about it as well. What is your take on that?

Ethan Hawke : I’m just in shock. I made eight movies with Rick and I loved them all. I believe in him completely and I am so happy that people are finally understanding that this is a really serious film maker of this time period. He is the most humble guy. He is so down to earth and fun to be with and he celebrates so many other people. He has championed so many young film makers. I think of his nineteen movies seventeen of them are really great. The other two are damn good. He’s really special. But I still can’t believe. I thought WAKING LIFE was genius but nobody cared about it. The before trilogies were my favorite things that happened to me and only three people saw that movie. It’s been wonderful that this movie has connected with people.

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PREDESTINATION opens in theaters and On Demand January 9th

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